Verbosity in Chatbots: YapBench Reveals When LLMs Talk Too Much
Table of Contents
- Introduction
- Why This Matters
- YapBench Unpacked: What It Measures
- Category Insights: A, B, and C
- Real-World Implications and Design Takeaways
- Key Takeaways
- Sources & Further Reading
Introduction
If you’ve ever chatted with an AI assistant and felt like you just got a long-winded lecture instead of a crisp answer, you’re not imagining things. A new research effort, YapBench, digs into a very practical problem: how much do large language models (LLMs) talk beyond what’s necessary? The paper—the YapBench benchmark—asks a surprisingly simple question: on prompts where a short answer should be enough, how much extra text do assistant LLMs generate, and is that extra verbosity actually useful or just noise?
This work comes from Borisov, Gröger, Mikhael, and Schreiber, and it builds on the idea that post-training preference mechanisms (think RLHF and other alignment pipelines) can subtly reward longer responses—even when the extra text doesn’t improve accuracy or helpfulness. The paper introduces YapBench as a lightweight, interpretable way to quantify verbosity. For the full background and methodology, you can check the original paper here: Do Chatbot LLMs Talk Too Much? The YapBench Benchmark.
In short, YapBench is a targeted probe into how concise, to-the-point an assistant’s reply is when a brief answer would do. It’s about user experience, cost, and environmental impact as much as it is about raw accuracy. The authors argue that for many everyday interactions, more text does not mean better help, and in fact it can erode trust, inflate inference costs, and waste energy.
Why This Matters
This research arrives at a moment when chatbots and copilots are becoming a default part of workflows—from customer support to coding help and data analysis. The capacity of modern LLMs to generate long, carefully crafted responses is impressive, but it’s not always what users want. YapBench reframes the conversation: instead of asking “can the model answer correctly?” it asks, “does the model answer with the right amount of text for a given prompt?”
Here’s why that matters now:
- Practical usability: In many everyday tasks, users favor crisp, direct answers. A model that rambles can frustrate users and slow decision-making. YapBench targets exactly this friction point—verbosity that doesn’t add value.
- Cost and energy: Each extra token costs money and energy. In high-throughput settings, even a modest amount of unnecessary text compounds into real dollars and noticeable electricity use. The YapBench framework explicitly links verbosity to an economic-aware metric (YapTax) to quantify this overhead.
- Fair evaluation: The research sits in conversation with a broader literature showing length bias in LLMs, especially when rewards or judgments are tied to output length. YapBench emphasizes a category-aware view—verbosity isn’t monolithic. A model might be minimal on one kind of task and verbose on another, which has direct implications for UI design and evaluation pipelines.
- Build-for-conciseness: The paper argues for design and training approaches that encourage brevity where appropriate, rather than assuming longer is better due to historical training signals.
If you’re building or evaluating chat assistants today, YapBench offers a concrete lens to optimize for concise, useful interactions—without sacrificing correctness or safety.
YapBench Unpacked: What It Measures
The core idea behind YapBench is to isolate and quantify verbosity only when brevity is desired. The authors lay out three practical goals:
- Isolation of verbosity: Evaluate how much text a model adds beyond what is minimally necessary for a correct, clear answer.
- Brevity-ideal scope: Focus on prompts where a short direct reply is widely considered sufficient.
- Practical simplicity: Use standard APIs and offline scoring to keep the approach reproducible.
To make this concrete, YapBench introduces three interlinked constructs: a minimal sufficient baseline for each prompt, a per-prompt excess text measure (YapScore), and a category-balanced aggregate (YapIndex). There’s also a cost-oriented companion (YapTax) and category-level diagnostics.
Minimal Baselines and Brevity-Ideal Prompts
For every prompt pi in the benchmark set, YapBench defines a baseline bibi—the minimal sufficient answer. Baselines are intentionally short, correct, and self-contained. They’re not the “best possible” answer; they’re the minimum needed to satisfy the prompt under standard usage.
The prompts themselves are grouped into three categories to reflect common real-world interaction regimes:
- Category A: Low-information turns that are underspecified or ambiguous (think “help,” “how?”, or even phatic tokens like “OK” or “Thanks”). For Category A, the baseline is typically a short clarification or a minimal acknowledgment.
- Category B: Straightforward factual questions where a one-token or very short answer would suffice (e.g., a capital, a chemical formula, a numeric fact). Category B baselines are single words or short phrases.
- Category C: Atomic, one-line outputs like a single shell command, a simple regex, or a one-liner code snippet. Baselines in Category C are exactly one line, with no extraneous formatting.
In total, YapBench v0.1 contains 304 prompts: 60 in Category A, 126 in Category B, and 118 in Category C. The baselines themselves are curated to be stable and reproducible, emphasizing a “minimal sufficiency” standard rather than a best-possible answer.
Key Metrics: YapScore, YapIndex, YapTax
YapScore: For each prompt i, YapScore measures the number of extra characters in the model’s final answer beyond the minimal baseline. A YapScore of zero means the model matched the baseline length; higher scores indicate more verbosity. This per-prompt score is designed to be tokenizer-agnostic, expressed in characters for easy interpretation.
YapIndex: This is a category-balanced aggregate of YapScores. The authors group prompts into categories A, B, and C, compute category medians of YapScore to reduce the influence of outliers, and then form a weighted average across categories (with uniform category weights by default). The YapIndex provides a single, interpretable number representing overall verbosity behavior across distinct interaction regimes.
YapTax: The cost-oriented companion metric estimates the marginal dollar cost of over-generation under token-based pricing. It accounts for the model’s output tokens, the baseline baseline token length, and the token price of the model. The idea is to translate excess text into an approximate $ cost per 1,000 benchmark queries, offering a practical lens for teams monitoring API spend and energy consumption.
These metrics are complemented by category-level diagnostics and uncertainty estimation via bootstrap. The authors use 1,000 bootstrap iterations to generate 95% percentile intervals for category medians and the aggregate YapIndex, acknowledging that medians can be asymmetric in heavy-tailed distributions.
For those who want the “what’s the price” angle in practical terms, YapTax provides a way to translate verbosity into dollars per 1,000 prompts, factoring in a given API’s per-token pricing.
Prompts and Categories
- Category A (underspecified inputs): Prompts with unclear intent, such as empty inputs, punctuation spam, or requests that are underspecified. The goal is to see whether models respond with minimal clarifications or fill the vacuum with extra content.
- Category B (single fact): Prompts where a single factual answer is sufficient. It tests whether models stick to a concise fact or pad with caveats and extra context.
- Category C (one-line commands/snippets): Prompts that expect a compact, one-line answer (code, shell commands, or pattern snippets). This isolates formatting and presentation overhead around a “one-liner” task.
YapBench’s design is intentionally pragmatic: it focuses on a slice of typical user interactions where brevity matters, while keeping the protocol simple enough to run with standard API outputs.
For completeness, the researchers report on a live YapBench leaderboard with thousands of models tested, and they maintain a public leaderboard to track changes in verbosity behavior as new models roll out. They also note that the category-level results can differ dramatically, underscoring that “one size fits all” verbosity targets aren’t realistic.
If you’re curious about the exact formalism and how the measurements are computed, the paper lays out the definitions and bootstrap methodology in detail (and yes, you can see the full equations in the original work).
For those who want to revisit the core methodology, a natural place to start is the original YapBench publication: Do Chatbot LLMs Talk Too Much? The YapBench Benchmark.
Category Insights: A, B, and C
Here’s a digestible read on what the YapBench results reveal about each category, with practical implications for builders and researchers.
Category A (underspecified inputs): This is where a lot of overhead leaks out. The study finds that several models tend to “fill the vacuum” with unsolicited content rather than issuing a minimal clarification request or a brief acknowledgment. In real-world terms, when a user is vague or unclear, a model that over-delivers with pre-emptive content can feel noisy and can waste user time. The takeaway: if you’re deploying a concierge-like assistant, you might want explicit controls or prompts that encourage clarifying questions instead of jumping to a verbose response.
Category B (short factual Q&A): You’d expect minimalism here, but results show a wider spread. Some models stay concise, while others load in extra context and caveats—even when a simple fact would do. This aligns with broader evidence that length-based rewards in evaluation or preference modeling can tilt behavior toward verbosity, even when it doesn’t improve accuracy. For practitioners, a practical implication is to implement length-agnostic evaluation signals or constraints when you care about succinct factual replies.
Category C (one-line tasks): The one-liner regime is surprisingly sensitive to overhead. A single-line answer can get surrounded by formatting, extra explanations, or duplicated code blocks, which defeats the purpose of a clean, single-line solution. Notably, some models do manage near-minimal behavior in this space, showing that reducing one-line verbosity is achievable with targeted incentives. This has concrete implications for tooling and UI: if your product often presents one-line outputs (e.g., shell commands or short code), enforcing a strict one-line policy at the UI layer or via post-processing filters can materially trim unnecessary text.
Across categories, the results underscore a broader nuance: verbosity is not simply a function of overall model capability or size. A model can be quite capable yet still prone to over-generation in certain interaction regimes. The paper highlights that the best-performing models on standard capability benchmarks do not automatically translate to the most concise behavior in brevity-ideal settings (a fascinating find they discuss with a nod to older and newer models alike).
One striking observation in the discussion is that a 2023-era model like GPT-3.5-turbo sometimes attains a very strong YapIndex, indicating that brevity-optimized behavior is not strictly correlated with model recency or scale. This decoupling suggests that the right training signals and post-training objectives matter a lot for user-facing concision.
For readers who want to dig deeper, the authors provide category-level leaderboards (Table 5 in the paper) and emphasize that a single global verbosity score can mask meaningful differences by interaction type. The practical implication is clear: product teams should report and monitor category-level verbosity in addition to any overall score to diagnose where their assistant needs policy tweaks.
If you’re evaluating models and want to see how they handle specific prompts, the YapBench approach is a useful blueprint: pick prompts that truly require brevity, anchor them with stable minimal baselines, and then measure how much extra text a model dumps on top of those baselines.
Real-World Implications and Design Takeaways
User experience design: When you’re choosing or configuring an assistant for quick, decision-critical tasks, prioritize models with lower YapIndex in the categories that map to your use case. For simple Q&A or command-like tasks, a model that minimizes over-generation can deliver faster, more satisfying interactions.
Cost and energy awareness: YapTax translates verbosity into dollars. In high-traffic deployments, even modest reductions in unnecessary text can lead to meaningful savings—not just in API costs but in energy use. If you’re operating at scale, you might couple YokBench-style checks with real-time verbosity guards to keep the marginal cost of each response in check.
Training and alignment strategies: The findings reinforce the idea that length bias is not an inevitable byproduct of model scale. Instead, it seems tied to preference signals learned during alignment. That opens doors for explicit brevity-focused objectives, such as conditioning a model to minimize extraneous text when a short answer suffices or implementing post-processing that trims to the minimal necessary content before presenting it to users.
Category-aware evaluation: A single “verbosity score” can overlook practical bottlenecks. YapBench’s three-category approach shows where a system struggles most. If you care about a real-world task like coding help or command-line assistance, you’ll want to peek at Category C metrics specifically to prune formatting and prose that don’t add value.
Practical deployment tips: If your API clients present short answers by default, you can still offer more verbose explanations on demand, but you should have a clear default policy to present minimal content first. The results suggest that explicit reasoning modes or shields around verbosity can be tuned without sacrificing core capabilities, depending on the user’s need.
Cross-model comparisons: The YapBench leaderboard can serve as a cross-model diagnostic tool. If you’re deciding between several models, consider running YapBench-style checks on the same prompts to gauge not just accuracy but also the economy of expression. This is especially relevant if your business case relies on rapid back-and-forth or where user attention is limited.
Key Takeaways
- YapBench introduces a practical, category-aware way to measure verbosity in LLMs, focusing on prompts where brief, direct answers are appropriate.
- The core metrics are YapScore (excess characters per prompt), YapIndex (category-balanced aggregate of medians), and YapTax (estimated extra cost in dollars per 1,000 prompts due to over-generation).
- YapBench v0.1 uses 304 prompts across Category A (underdetermined), Category B (short factual), and Category C (one-line tasks). It uses minimal baselines to anchor what “minimal sufficiency” looks like for each prompt.
- Results show substantial variation in verbosity not just across models, but across interaction regimes. In particular:
- Category A often triggers notable over-generation as models try to fill in missing context.
- Category B reveals that some models still add unnecessary caveats around simple facts.
- Category C shows frequent overhead around one-line commands or snippets, even when a single line would suffice.
- A surprising takeaway is that newer or larger models aren’t inherently more concise; in some cases older models (e.g., GPT-3.5-turbo-era) can outperform newer frontiers on YapIndex, highlighting the importance of alignment and response-prior policies.
- The researchers provide a live YapBench leaderboard to track verbosity across evolving models, encouraging tools and training approaches that reduce unnecessary text when brevity is preferred.
- Real-world impact is clear: reducing over-generation can improve user satisfaction, lower costs, and cut energy use in large-scale deployments.
If you’re building or evaluating chat assistants, YapBench offers a practical blueprint to quantify and reduce unnecessary length. It’s not a catch-all measure of quality, but it targets a crucial UX axis that often gets overlooked in favor of accuracy or safety. And as the paper notes, verbosity is a meaningful signal about how an assistant prioritizes user context and task clarity—elements that matter deeply in real-world workflows.
For the full methodological details, the official YapBench report is the right place to dive deeper: Do Chatbot LLMs Talk Too Much? The YapBench Benchmark.
Sources & Further Reading
- Original Research Paper: Do Chatbot LLMs Talk Too Much? The YapBench Benchmark
- Authors: Vadim Borisov, Michael Gröger, Mina Mikhael, Richard H. Schreiber
If you want to explore more about verbosity, length bias, and how researchers are thinking about balancing usefulness with conciseness in AI systems, this YapBench work sits nicely alongside related studies on verbosity metrics, length-aware evaluation, and concise-judgment frameworks. It’s a timely reminder that in the age of powerful LLMs, smarter, shorter answers can be a feature—not a bug.